The backpack and contents were covered with fingerprints, yet they were never analyzed. Gary, great work on noticing things in such detail. Thanks for sharing this. For goodness sake, why do people make things up? thank you for sharing this. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. The attacker could have taken the photos to confuse the authorities and the public. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost. Are they low-level or sophisticated or a combo or both? Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? Hello Chris, did you ever get any background on the statements made by Joseph? I wish there were more answers to what happened. Shortly after this photo is when the girls encountered trouble and tried to dial for help. And she can only hope that Kris will wake up. That way, no downloads are necessary. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. Even if there is only one it can provide information of they were not which is important to reduce the places they could be because much of the conspiracy theories I see seem to suggest they were not on the trail. As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? This is so surreal. The plane was located with the help of Bruce's Legacy, as well as a local family whose boats were used in the mission, Lewitinn said. Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. Cats are often seen as pests and scavengers which is unfortunately why many people use poison to kill local cats. There is very convincing evidence gathered by Juan Perea over the years on this case. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Its at the very top of the post. Also, Im looking forward to reading the new book as well, particularly what Pitti has to say. Packed up the bag, left it, and tried to walk out. In India's Parvati Valley, dozens of male tourists have gone missing Think about it. It is almost as if they are deliberately not to tell anything rather than the much speculated something. I have created a comparison of the original photo leaked to the public, the artificially upsampled version thereof and the (presumed) full resolution picture taken from the article linked to in my previous post (all cropped to show only Kris and further 2 magnified). That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. actually name names. Highly probable. Most of the pictures taken on April 8 are of complete darkness while some show the jungle floor, but two pictures are alarming: one is a picture of some of the girls belongings on a rock, and the other shows the back of Kremerss head with what appears to be a bloodstain in her hair. Government corruption is the core of the problem. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. I think your initial analysis of the photo is spot on. It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. Water bottle photo: OK I see the conspiracy theorists saying someone else had their phones but who else would know to try 112 which is the common emergency number for EU countries? With all the misinformation thrown out there and poor follow up work (likely to protect tourism), any ones guess is possible. Is there much shareable knowledge about the gang in the area? I just realized Blue, the guide dog who often walks hikers up the trail, whose return home without the girls alerted locals they were missing, IS NOT IN ANY OF L & K pictures. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. There were no signs at that time. A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. What do you think? After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. Sometimes I refer back to the Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, the two girls that made international headlines in 2014 when they disappeared in the northwest region of Panama. It also contained Lisanne's camera and both of their phones. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. We do not know what other clothing or items they possibly took. They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. The limited number of attempts especially on the first day is very strange. May the case stay alive and well. Out of respect for the girls families, I think that comments like this, which I argue turn this case into some sort of entertaining Netflix series, should be removed. 1 Long-Haul Tourism Market. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. Well be mapping the trails with a GPS device, searching for the location of the night photos and capturing aerial footage of the rivers in the region. So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. Kris is clearly sticking out her tongue at someone. It is possible for incompetence to work in conjunction with interests to protect key industries. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? If you follow down from the two red objects, there appears to be something that looks almost like blocks or siding shingles. Keep the ideas flowing guys. I am assuming that the rock painting you refer to is the round orange patch on the right. I become very confused and not starting from Go and not knowing what is fact and what is anecdotal I just do not know. A disturbing set of photographs are at the center of a mystery of the disappearance and death of two young women in Panama and local authorities are currently bewildered by a conspicuously missing photo file on their SD card. Wow. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. A year later, two tourists following the same trail are robbed at gunpoint. Therefore, if Kris Kremers is normal and happy, as she appears to be in this photo (and in the other photos in the series), it means that things took a bad turn for them relatively soon after the photo above was taken. One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. . Bu that he meant an outcome which had no human input to the consequences. Do mobile phones store the number entered? Two Dutch tourists Kris Lemers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22 disappeared while out on a hike in Panama in April 2004. How Many Backpackers Go Missing In Australia Every Year None of the calls ever got through due to a lack of a signal. I cant explain the calls or photos or intact skin that was found. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Occums razor. See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. Thank you for your consideration. Froon and Kremers were both in their early 20s; they traveled to Panama to work with children. What kind of twisted f*ck stick makes this kind of comment? Most disappearance cases dont get such publicity, so you can imagine how much less effort goes into them. It holds a bad energy. If you read the article linked, its not even an indigenous tribe. For the next three days she keeps moving, weakened by exposure to the elements and at the edge of starvation. Are you familiar with the Koude Kaas blogs about this case? Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? As you say, it might be better if you were able to lay out the photos and see how they seem to fit together. Someone with darkish skin. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. They could have been a target early on. I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? Really sad story, whichever way you look. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. I dont know if youve noticed this or not. Apparently it would also have been easy to alter the time stamps on the photos. Machismo culture is very real and respect is considered to hold a higher level of importance in Latin America. Hopefully, this 2021 investigation can find the truth of exactly what happened. Hi Chris..I just came across this story yesterday and it was really sad and disturbingI hope the truth comes out too. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. After cops searched the area where the backpack was found, they discovered Kris' clothes neatly folded along the edge of the river. Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. I see nothing extraordinary in this photo, without stretching imagination. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. Two years later, a 23 year old American woman is strangled to death while walking the trails. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. Hi Kevin, Occums razor only applies when all facts are available. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Unfortunately, this camera setting is not public knowledge, but the default mode is Continuous.. Its interesting to hear that you are considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. Hi Chris thanks for the link to the book. But the call logs gave the cops a rough outline of the time the girls spent missing in the jungle. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? I wouldnt give mine out to my best friend, not even to my wife. I think murder is quite likely. Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. This option is least likely, because wed obviously see something more tangible in the photos. Aside from the various graffiti markings, the one thing that looks potentially creepy is the circular, hanging object. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. Hi Chris! Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? ?If they were attacked by people immidiately after this, how they took the photos?? Since they were two young women from Europe, I can easily see the possibility that they offended the wrong man. Where are those Pings? Give me a link. I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. Of course there is room for healthy and rational speculation surrounding what happened but the vast majority of these theories are absolutely ridiculous and downright disrespectful. I would like to pick your brains on your thoughts about the night photos: 1. of SOS made with a white cloth, 2. the mirror on rock 3. There are no discernible scratches of any kind on the bones, neither of natural nor cultural origin there are no marks on the bones at all. Looks like 2 blurred out people one talker than other behind her over her left shoulder or her left when looking left of pic. The timing of the photos is incorrect, the resolution of the photos was altered to remove detail (which is why the public only has poor quality photos) and sometimes the photos were different sizes/dimensions. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. This photo has been edited. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. Just pressing the button to turn the screen on provides you with the relative information, ie, whether you have a signal or not. It doesnt matter. At least 3 tourists are still missing after gunmen kidnapped them in At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? Here is what I see: Im impressed how you were able to see the other things in the photo. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. The families continued to plead with the U.S. government to send equipment and personnel to aid in the search and recovery effort. And her shirt is pushed up. The picture just before this one appears to be higher in elevation, meaning that from the direction they were coming, a pit trap being place around this area could/would be ideal. I know AMAZING explanition it is sad they are dead but my friend said they might be faking and Lisanne froon and kris kremer ate people to fake their bones but I think my friend is wrong. Could be that they were trying to avoid somebody on the trail, went off the oath & got lost. Please support us we cant do it without you. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. I was clearly kept elsewhere and planted later. Perhaps every murder in the first world is resolved. It is also possible that an unknown person, possibly the one responsible for the girls deaths, deleted the file for some reason but not the others on the card with a laptop in the middle of the jungle. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. ), podran darnos explicaciones de la posicin del cuerpo, de las manos y la expresin del rostro en la foto 506. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. At the beginning of this video I think I see some blue dye/paint/powder on one of the mens legs and something blue on the floor. My husband is a mountain climber and when hes out, the mountain rescue flys multiple times a day because hikers overestimate their abilities in the german Alps, not anywhere in the jungle. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. Or maybe the girls were using the flash as light in the dark. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. Beyond that, the police are even suspect in altering evidence and not preserving it. And the black mark on her face. To the left hangs a cow skull smeared with blood, perhaps worn during the sacrifices. Think. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. Where is YNW Melly? This was cleverly planned, and the murderer(s) have done this before. It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. This link answers some of those questions: Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide). Fact. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. These photos all look very photoshopped. I dont think so. Thanks for your comment. If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. I think this picture of Kris is a picture of her circling around looking for where they entered the jungle. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. Ive travelled through Central and South America quite a bit and these experiences cant be found elsewhere. Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. I believe that by the time this photo was taken, the situation has gone sideways. How many tourists go to Australia? I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. Kriss bones had unnatural traces of phosphorus.